11.23.2014

THE EYE OF PHOTOGRAPHY: Turns One!

 
"Masterpieces from the Howard Greenberg Collection" 
“Silence and Dust, 9/11 Memorial, 2002”



ONE YEAR! 
At year one L'Oeil de la Photographie / The Eye of Photography has 7 sponsors, a team of 38 people, a few hundred friends and over 200,000 visitors every month from 188 countries. Become a Friend of L’Oeil here

I've collected my 1st year contributions here. My greatest thanks is to Editor-in-Chief Jean-Jacques Naudet, and also to W.m. Hunt, Ericka Weidmann, Juliette Deschodt and everyone that contributes to it's continued success.

11.13.2014

SEAN PERRY: Tom Baril, Botanica

Botanica, published by Arena Editions, 2000
 
Tulips 
Photograph © Tom Baril

 Two Callas
Photograph © Tom Baril

Calla Lily
Photograph © Tom Baril

Sean Perry's
The Sunday Find – Tom Baril, Botanica

This week in my classes we looked at the mighty Tom Baril and his two masterfully produced books – Botanica, published by Arena Editions in 2000, and Tom Baril, his seminal monograph published by 4AD in 1997. Both titles are lush and decadent, rich tri-tone reproductions of his gorgeous, gorgeous prints alongside elegant typography, each seductively designed and simply perfect.

These are relatively scarce books, long out of print and often expensive. You will find a copy of Botanica at photo-eye Bookstore, or you can check on eBay, but I have often scored great books by hunting for under-subscribed listings. Be careful, check the seller, do your due diligence and all of that jazz…. For myself, anything under $50.00 would be a steal, the book often trades for $100.00 plus. Edited by Mr. David Fahey and designed by Ms. Elsa Kendall, the boards are covered with smokey moss green cloth, having almost gold highlights. Endpapers are fantastic gray moss. The color palette against the 60 plates of toned photographs is exquisite. Only one printing, by EBS in Verona Italy, 132 pages.

Born in 1952, Tom Baril graduated from the School of Visual Arts in NYC and for near 20 years served as Robert Mapplethorpe’s master printer. Few can match the presence and sheer alchemy his prints express. I am so thankful to have seen a great many in person and he remains one of my deepest influences. His work is wide ranging, spanning the urban environment, seascapes, botanical and figure studies. I love his amalgamation of tradition and discovery, the excellence with craft and vision across many mediums – in printmaking, the portfolio form and book-arts. I rarely see interviews with Mr. Baril, though there is a little jewel of a find in an extended audio conversation with Mr. Jensen at the esteemed publication, LensWork.

Additionally, HPB has a few juicy member coupons hitting this week.... 30% off one item Friday and Saturday and 50% off one item on Sunday. I have my choices earmarked, I suggest you do the same! Just tonight I saw Louis Faurer, Richard Avedon, Herb Ritts, Michael O’Brien, Robert Adams and Larry Clark. Make sure you are on the mailing list for the coupons – if you find yourself in need, email me and I will be happy to send. Seek these fine titles out, perhaps one waiting for you with an egregious Sunday discount…. that would be just delightful would it not?

My best to you always, Sean Perry

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 Recommendations from Elizabeth Avedon

Platinum + Silver Prints
Renaissance Press Photogravure
Ashuelot, NH 03441

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Print Information: Prints are gelatin silver, toned in various combinations of sepia, selenium, and gold. They are printed by the artist to archival standards in limited editions. The Gotham series is available in Platinum/Palladium on Cotton Rag, printed with Chris McCaw. Works are presented in ebony stained purple heart wood frames, signed and dated in pencil on verso. Sean Perry's photographs available through Stephen L. Clark Gallery, Austin Texas, phone 512-477-0828.

11.12.2014

HALEY MORRIS CAFIERO: The Watchers on Kickstarter

Dress
Photograph © Haley Morris-Cafiero

Donuts
Photograph © Haley Morris-Cafiero

Cops
Photograph © Haley Morris-Cafiero


"Her ability to draw attention to global attitudes about weight, fat shaming and other issues related to body identity is tremendously deserving of your support." — Jon Feinstein, Co-Founder of Humble Arts Foundation

THE WATCHERS: The first book of photographs by Haley Morris-Cafiero from her award winning series Wait Watchers.

WAIT WATCHERS: In 2010, I set up a camera to take a self-portrait in Times Squares in New York City. After I had the film developed, I looked at the images and found that a man was standing behind me and appeared to be sneering at me. I never thought that I would capture a glance that can last a microsecond. Since then, I have been setting up a camera in public to see if I can capture the gazes of the strangers who walk by me while I am doing everyday, mundane acts. I then look at the images to see if anyone who passed by me had a critical or questioning look on their face or in their body language. I present the images to the world to start a conversation. While I do not know what the passersby are thinking, I attempt to reverse the gaze back onto the stranger. 

In February 2013, the Wait Watchers images were published on the wonderful blog, Lenscratch. The next day, they were published on Huffington Post, then the Daily Mail in the UK, and then went viral. After my photos received viral exposure, I found that most of the articles had comment sections filled with thousands of anonymous comments criticizing my body, my clothes, my face, my hair, etc. Then the critical comments starting coming via email. Most of the comments and emails said that my life (and in some cases the world) would be better if I lost weight and got a makeover. The unsolicited criticism inspired the next phase of the Wait Watchers series.

THE PUBLICATION: In September 2015, subject to the success of this Kickstarter Campaign, The Magenta Foundation, Canada’s pioneering non-profit, charitable arts publishing house, based in Toronto, Canada, will publish THE WATCHERS (Sept. 2015), based on the Wait Watchers series of photos by Haley Morris-Cafiero. And will be available in three versions—a Regular Trade Edition, a Boxed Special Edition and a Deluxe Special Edition complete with special edition print....more info here






11.11.2014

VETERANS DAY: Jessica Hines + Debi Cornwall

Smoke Break, Camp America

"On this Veterans Day, I hope that we will take time out today to think about the wars raging on this planet and do what we can to stop them from happening in the first place. Remember that most of those returning from war continue to fight another kind of battle after they return home -- Post Traumatic Stress injury is invisible to the eye and most tragic in that it effects behavior that can mistakenly be interpreted as character flaw. Vote to support medical aid to those who return with these battle scars."

"If we can borrow trillions of dollars to fight wars, then we can also borrow the same to take care of the people who lived through wars and need care. No excuses." –Jessica Hines, author of My Brother's War
 

 "My Brother's War"
 Photograph © Jessica Hines

"Remembering my brother, Gary, today. A veteran of the American war in Viet Nam, who developed Post Traumatic Stress injury and although he returned from the war, committed suicide about ten years later. Did you know that more veterans from the war in Viet Nam later committed suicide than actually died in battle?"– Jessica Hines, author of "My Brothers War"

11.09.2014

MONA KUHN + STEIDL + PARIS PHOTO: "Private" Book Signing at Paris Photo

Mona Kuhn "PRIVATE"
Monograph Published by Steidl (Nov 2014)

November 15, 2014
"Private" Book Signing at Steidl Booth, ParisPhoto 
Grand Palais, Paris  4PM

"PRIVATE" 
Photograph © Mona Kuhn

"PRIVATE"
Photograph © Mona Kuhn

MONA KUHN + STEIDL + PARIS PHOTO

"“Private” is a personal journey, weaving together the desert beauty with its brutal sense of mortality, understanding mysticism and our place in it." – Mona Kuhn

Mona Kuhn Talks About "PRIVATE"

Private” is a calm and introspective series; a meditative collection of images I took over a period of 2-years. I entered the heart of the American desert, traveling through the Mojave and Arizona regions, entering for the first time the remote parts of a Navajo reservation, areas close to James Turrel’s Roden Crater. “Private” is a personal journey, weaving together the desert beauty with its brutal sense of mortality, understanding mysticism and our place in it.

I usually start a new series with colors. I knew I wanted a little bit of that golden sand skin tonality. I wanted black as it has a certain sense of mortality. You are constantly testing your endurance in the desert, the limits of how long you can stay out there or how debilitating it is to be at 100 and some degrees. Your system really slows down and you can’t think straight. So the whole series is about our vulnerability in that environment as a metaphor to life.

At the time I was reading T. S. Eliot  “The Waste Land.” There are no direct parallels, but I noticed a certain essence of his poem in the work, like a perfume that stays in the air after someone left.

I wanted to approach what is truly strange, beautiful and disorienting about the desert. Aside from vast landscapes and intimate nudes, for the first time I also photographed a few desert animals as metaphors. I was intrigued by their mysticism, like desert shamans, they have an instinct of their own. They know well their place and function in that vast space. Like the California pale moths that fly into the light. Or a black widow tattooed on a woman’s hand. I photographed a majestic black condor, then I photographed a Nephila’s golden spider web. Animals seem to understand nature's balance and survive better than humans in the desert.   

I met a lot of people who moved to the desert because they want to escape or get “off the grid”. But the desert is not for the weak of the heart. It offers an alluring American sense of freedom, but its harsh reality does not cease to remind us of our own limitations. It is shocking to face one’s own mortality. Lee Friedlander once said: “The desert is a wonderful, awful, seductive, alluring stage on which to be acting out the photography game.”

One of the homes I stayed in was built on top of this slanted rock formation. Underneath that slanted rock, there was a large shaded open area, like the shape of a mouth half open. A perfect habitat for rattlesnakes.  This guy had dozens of stretched rattlesnake skins stapled on plywood board to dry out, all over the place.  Hundreds of snakes live right under his rock foundation.  I arrived at places and entered homes I could have never imagined before. But at the same time, being who I am, I wasn’t going to photograph the desert like “Breaking Bad.” I wanted to photograph the desert with a certain human element to relate to the beauty and the harshness. So there is a lot more landscape in this series than most.

The light is incredibly sharp; it contracts the pupils into tiny dots, making views of crystal clarity in which light and land are one. At times, I would photograph just the light by itself, its abstractions, bright sunlight and the graphic dark shadows - it had a powerful and minimal feel to it. 

I photographed some people along the way, at times in their homes. Most homes I have been inside had their curtains closed. People get tired of the heat, you start feeling the weight of light, it becomes heavy. You go into people’s homes and all shades are down. Some of the desert people I met prefer to live in darkness. 

You can easily loose the sense of scale in the desert.

In 1930’s, Georgia O’Keefe would often refer to what she called the “Faraway Nearby”.  I photographed what seemed to have a force and scale of its own, that being macro or micro.

One of these beautiful places was Grand Falls in a Navajo Reserve in Arizona.  It is a larger than life multilayered waterfall system. But the water is not clear; the water carries this monochromatic sand-like tonalities with it. It looks like a waterfall of skin tones.  There, water and skin become one.

On the opposite scale, I found a little spring flower that was so frail. It’s very delicate image shot from above.  T.S. Elliot would say that Spring season lasts only one day in the desert.  The Spring flower rises in the morning and dies at night. 

Along a similar scale curiously I shot from the computer screen an image of California City, a planned but unrealized urban development.  The roads marked out in the dust for a civilization that never really came, seen from a camera orbiting miles above the desert.   Like ruins in reverse.

November 13-16, 2014
Private, solo booth at Jackson Fine Art, ParisPhoto
Grand Palais, Paris

November 15, 2014
Private Book Signing at Steidl Booth, ParisPhoto 
Grand Palais, Paris  4PM

11.05.2014

GRIFFIN MUSEUM OF PHOTOGRAPHY: Honors IPL Founder Larissa Leclair with Spotlight Award

 LARISSA LECLAIR

The Indie Photobook Library is a U.S. based archive that collects and showcases self-published and indie published photobooks, and facilitates discourse on trends in contemporary publishing and scholarly research now and in the future, founded by Larissa Leclair.

On October 25, 2014, Larissa Leclair was honored with the Spotlight Award from the Griffin Museum of Photography in Boston, Massachusetts. The Focus Awards at the Griffin recognize individuals making critical contributions to the promotion, curation and presentation of photography. The Spotlight Award is given to an entity that consistently shines a light on photography and has created a far reaching impact in the field.


Larissa Leclair's Focus Award Tribute VIMEO (3:45) includes Darius Himes, Elizabeth Avedon, George Slade, Daniel Boetker-Smith, and Aaron Canipe. Check it out: http://vimeo.com/109813546


11.04.2014

JEFF BRIDGES + THE ABIDERS: New Album


Jeff Bridges and his band "The Abiders" are currently on tour. 
His daughter, Jessie Bridges, is the opening act.
Photograph © William Avedon

Jeff Bridges and "The Abiders"
Photograph © William Avedon

Jeff Bridges with daughter, Jessie Bridges.
Photograph © William Avedon

While requesting an interview with Jeff Bridges about his Photography – Pictures by Jeff Bridges (powerHouse Books) shot with a Wide-Lux camera – I was invited instead, along with one of my sons, to a concert he and his band "The Abiders" were giving at the City Winery in New York City.  

As Bridges is currently promoting his new album, LIVE, the photography interview will have to wait. However, we had the most spectacular evening listening to many of the new songs on their LIVE album, as well as original music composed by T Bone Burnett, Stephen Bruton, Ryan Bingham and others from Bridges Oscar-winning role in the film "Crazy Heart."

Jeff Bridges came out on stage to introduce his daughter, Jessie, as the opening act. It was very moving to watch father and daughter perform together. Thank you Jeff Bridges and Company....

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And check out this brilliant conversation
"The Dude and The Zen Master"
with Jeff Bridges and Bernie Glassman



10.27.2014

CHRIS ANTHONY: Seas Without A Shore

Hippocampus 18
Photograph © Chris Anthony

Ladybird
Photograph © Chris Anthony

Hippocampus 17
Photograph © Chris Anthony

Annabel Lee
Photograph © Chris Anthony

Informed by the prose and imagery of Edgar Allen Poe, Chris Anthony’s “Seas Without A Shore” includes wet plate collodion prints along with color photographs. Part mystic, part conjurer, vaudeville ringmaster and antique portraitist, Chris Anthony is a rare artist. His ability to set both simple and elaborate stages creates elegant enigmas throughout his work that allow the viewer to witness something of a different reality while exploring themes of solitude, hope and survival.

Anthony was born in Sweden, now lives and works in Los Angeles. His work implements the wet plate collodion process beautifully along with using 150 year old lenses. His vision takes us to a selective and sophisticated level of image making with fictional narratives from the bizarre to the banal.

“Making the masks, and many of the props and costumes is a big part of the process and it helps me define this unique and demented little world I live and shoot in. The mysteries of the sea is certainly a big part of the subject matter in these pictures with color images of survivors braving waves and currents, perhaps the result of a future world where ocean tides will wash away the planet’s coastlines.”
Nov 15, 2014 – Jan 12, 2015
Seas Without A Shore
 Limited Edition Cover with Slipcase

 Seas Without A Shore
The Book

SEAS – CHECK OUT THE BOOK HERE

Thanks to SPOT PHOTO for text and images

10.23.2014

JESSICA TODD HARPER: The Home Stage at Rick Wester Fine Art

Marshall with Family and the World, 2013
Photograph © Jessica Todd Harper

Becky, June, Jessica, Mary, 2013
Photograph © Jessica Todd Harper

JESSICA TODD HARPER: The Home Stage

Coinciding with the release of her second monograph, The Home Stage (Damiani Editore), Jessica Todd Harper will be featured in her first solo exhibition at Rick Wester Fine Art, opening November 6th. Her first monograph, Interior Exposure (Damiani, 2008) firmly established Harper as an insightful, intelligent and talented photographer of the domestic documentary genre in the vein of Emmet Gowin, Larry Fink and Tina Barney. The Home Stage picks up where Interior Exposure leaves off, a sequel to a family’s story where the first installment’s introduction of the characters laid the foundation for further expansion, empathy and examination. As the title implies, the images in The Home Stage are theater, an image play that opens onto a world described from scene to scene.

Marshall and Christopher, 2008
Photograph © Jessica Todd Harper

Abby Sees Hugh in the Front Hall, 2013
Photograph © Jessica Todd Harper

Self Portrait with Marshall, 2008
Photograph © Jessica Todd Harper

The first sign of development is there are far more children in the latest body of work. The photographer herself has become a mother of three, her sister has given birth to a daughter and several friends’ and relations’ children appear. Harper writes in her A Note from the Artist that the book came from “the overwhelming sense that when we became parents Chris and I had entered into an alternate and strange world.” It may be in this acknowledgment that the groundswell of appreciation stems. Despite the distinctive and patrician environments where the images are executed, The Home Stage conveys a universality of familial connection. The young parents may look haggard and worn at times but there is also a stillness of acceptance and revelation in their faces that sometimes resembles religious paintings. This other worldliness is drawn out in all who face Harper’s lens, whether it is the artist shown in Madonna-like contentedness, or her 5 year old son gazing into the camera with a preternatural knowingness. Light, bathing each scene, is a cinematic thread throughout, itself a character that drives the photographer’s motivations.

Counterpoints arise. Harper’s sense of time ranges from the past, through the present and into the future. Ancestors appear in painted portraits hanging while their descendants are immortalized as well. The present state of the family is clearly described as Harper revels in the people and places of her immediate life. The future of the clan is never far off frame. Harper’s husband, Chris, has a grounded intensity whether holding his wife or his children. Meanwhile, the numerous photographs of Harper’s beguiling sister are a leit-motif, a subplot, that like the subject for much of the book, is pregnant with possibility. (Text courtesy of Rick Wester Fine Art)

November 6 to January 10
526 West 26th Street, NYC

Book Signing November 8th 1 - 3 pm

Self Portrait with Marshall (lion), 2009
Photograph © Jessica Todd Harper

10.20.2014

FLASH FORWARD: 2015 Call for Submissions

Photograph by Jon Tonks, Flash Forward Tenth
Marcus the Weather Man, St Helena Meteorological Station, 
St Helena Island, May 2013 from the series Empire 

Flash Forward 2015: Call for Submissions
The Magenta Foundation is pleased to announce Year Eleven of Flash Forward, its Emerging Photographers Competition. 2015 will see the return of Flash Forward Festival at its home base, Boston’s Fairmont Battery Wharf, where we bring together emerging professional photographers from around the world. Concurrently in Toronto, Flash Forward programming will focus on more developed educational experiences targeting local artists and high school students.

This is an open call to all photographers working in Canada, the UK and the US for submissions. Applicants must be 34 years-of-age or under as of December 31, 2014. All submission requirements and upload instructions may be reviewed here: Magenta Foundation

Flash Forward 2015 Jurors
Canada: 
Julien Beaupré Ste-Marie, Managing Editor / Books & Exhibitions, The Magenta Foundation
Erin Elder, Manager, Business Development + Partnerships, The Globe + Mail
Eva Michon, Co-founder + Editor, Bad Day magazine
 
UK:  
Gemma Barnett, Print Sales Manager, The Photographers’ Gallery
Rebecca McClelland, Group Photography Editor + Creative Director, Ian Parry Scholarship
Cheryl Newman, Photography Director, Telegraph Magazine
 
US: 
David Alexander Arnold, Photo Editor, Travel + Leisure
Elizabeth Avedon, Independent Curator; Writer, L’Oeil de la Photographie
Sam Barzilay, Creative Director, United Photo Industries; Co-Founder, Photoville
Alyssa Coppelman, Independent Photo Editor
Kate Gilbert, Independent Public Art Curator
Julie Graham, Editor and Publisher, aCurator
Meg Handler, Editor-at-Large, BagNews
Emily Keegin, Photography and Art Director
Divya Rao Heffley, Program Manager, Hillman Photography Initiative, Carnegie Museum of Art
Paula Tognarelli, Executive Director and Curator, Griffin Museum of Photography
 
Invited International Jurors:
Mauro Bedoni, Photo Editor, COLORS magazine
Raphaëlle Stopin, Curator, Writer; Photo Art Director, International Festival
of Fashion and Photography, Hyères, France

Cash and New Artist Multiple Book Prizes
One cash prize of $6,000 will be awarded to the 2015 Bright Spark, an emerging photographer whose submitted body of work is identified by the jury as being extraordinarily accomplished.

As in the past, all 2015 Flash Forward Winners and Honourable Mentions will have their work published in the catalogue that chronicles the annual juried competition. The Flash Forward group show, made up of a selection of photographs from the accompanying annual catalogue, will travel from Toronto to Boston and other places to be announced.
 
IN ADDITION: An Artist’s Multiple Book Prize has been added to this year’s competition. A photographer, selected by The Magenta Foundation Team, will be published. Details to be announced in the coming months.
 

10.16.2014

2014 ATLANTA CELEBRATES PHOTOGRAPHY: Nicholas Fedak II

Film Noir
Photograph © Nicholas Fedak II

The Real Thing
Photograph © Nicholas Fedak II

Dream Blizzard
Photograph © Nicholas Fedak II

The Night Cafe
 Photograph © Nicholas Fedak II

Forgotten Sunlight
Photograph © Nicholas Fedak II

"What motivates me to take a photograph is color, or the absence of it, and how light illuminates an object..." –Nicholas Fedak II

I met North Hollywood based photographer Nicholas Fedak II at the 2014 Atlanta Celebrates Photography Portfolio Review. Fedak describes his images about splendor and decay. He trys to capture a timeless quality. You can check out Nicholas Fedak's photographs on his website here.


10.15.2014

2014 ATLANTA CELEBRATES PHOTOGRAPHY: Nigel Morris from Coney Island to Ethiopia

 The People of South Ethiopia
Photograph © Nigel Morris

The People of South Ethiopia
Photograph © Nigel Morris

Outside, New York
 Photograph © Nigel Morris

Nigel Morris with "The People of South Ethiopia" book
ACP's 2014 Portfolio Walk

I met Brooklyn based portrait and editorial photographer Nigel Morris at the 2014 Atlanta Celebrates Photography Portfolio Walk. 51 photographers traveled from across the country  to Atlanta to participate. You can check out Nigel Morris's beautiful portraits and projects on his website here.


 Coney Island, Faces on the Boardwalk
 Photograph © Nigel Morris

 Coney Island, Faces on the Boardwalk
 Photograph © Nigel Morris

10.13.2014

CASTELL PHOTOGRAPHY GALLERY: NEXT Juried Exhibition Results

"Southern Stories" Photograph by Jessica Hines

Thank you to ALL who entered Castell Photography Gallery's 2014 NEXT Juried Exhibition. I was looking for exceptional photography with a unique perspective and a cohesive look from a single, unified body of work. There were a record number of entries and it was exciting to see such wonderful works from a diverse selection of artist's. This year's NEXT exhibition will include the work of: Ben Altman, Bina Altera, Sheri Lynn Behr, Christopher Borrok, Debi Cornwall, Sharron Diedrichs, KK DePaul, Francisco Diaz, Deb Young, Fran Forman, Juno Gemes, Ray Grasse, Lavonne Hall, Jessica Hines, Bilo Hussein, Ellen Jantzen, Michael Jantzen, Sarah Jun, Won Kim, Karen Klinedinst, David Shannon-Lier, Ben Marcin, Jennifer Mcclure, Jim McKinniss, Ruben Natal-San Miguel, Jessica Owen, Randhy Rodriguez, Donna Rosser, Mark Roussel, Andi Schreiber, Magdalena Sole, and Kevin Wo.

Awards will be announced
Opening Night, November 7, 2014
Castell Photography Gallery
 2C Wilson Alley, Asheville, North Carolina

10.12.2014

STEIDL / HOWARD GREENBERG LIBRARY: Launches New Imprint

Howard Greenberg and Gerhard Steidl
Photograph © Elizabeth Paul Avedon

Saul Leiter: Early Black and White
Steidl / Howard Greenberg Library

 Hats, c.1948
Saul Leiter: Early Black and White
Steidl / Howard Greenberg Library


Gregory Wakabayashi
Book Design, Steidl / Howard Greenberg Library
Photograph © Elizabeth Paul Avedon


 Leon Levinstein. Steidl / Howard Greenberg Library

 Coney Island, c.1970
Leon Levinstein, Steidl / Howard Greenberg Library

 James Karales, Steidl / Howard Greenberg Library

Martin Luther King, Jr., 1962. 
James Karales, Steidl / Howard Greenberg Library

Howard Greenberg and his gallery teamed up with Gerhard Steidl, the preeminent German art and photography book publisher, to launch their new imprint “Steidl / Howard Greenberg Library,” with the release of three monographs – Saul Leiter: Early Black and White, James Karales, and Leon Levinstein.
 
“Steidl is a gifted publisher who prints photography books at the caliber they deserve to be printed,” says Howard Greenberg. “It’s a wonderful partnership, and we will be working on photography books for many years to come.”

BOOKS
 
Saul Leiter: Early Black and White
Steidl / Howard Greenberg Library, 2 volumes, 388 pages
ISBN 978-3-86521-413-3

James Karales
Steidl / Howard Greenberg Library, 176 pages
ISBN 978-3-86930-444-1

Leon Levinstein
Steidl / Howard Greenberg Library, 320 pages
ISBN 978-3-86930-443-4